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Moscow government authorizes 30,000-strong opposition rally
Topic: Russian Poll Protests

Opposition rally in downtown Moscow on December 5, 2011
© RIA Novosti. Andrei SteninMOSCOW, December 9 (RIA Novosti)
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Opposition activists have been allowed to hold a 30,000-strong rally in downtown Moscow on Saturday to protest the results of the December 4 parliamentary elections, a deputy mayor of the Russian capital said.
“The rally organizers agreed to hold the rally on Bolotnaya Square offered to them by Moscow authorities in order to ensure that security measures are observed,” Deputy Mayor Alexander Gorbenko told journalists.
Earlier the opposition planned to hold the rally in another place in the capital’s center, on Revolution Square, but the number of people the Moscow administration authorized to come was 300. As thousands had voiced their intention to take part, the city government changed the venue.
The ruling United Russia party won Sunday’s State Duma elections with 49.3 percent of the vote. The Communist Party received 19.2 percent, A Just Russia, 13.25 percent, and the Liberal Democrats, 12 percent. Other parties did not clear the 7-percent election threshold. Thousands of people went out to protest the results on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and hundreds were detained.
Some observers and critics claimed the vote was slanted in favor of the governing party and cited ballot stuffing at certain polling places. President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin denied vote rigging, saying the elections were fair.
Gorbenko said the rally was authorized to be held from 2 p.m. Moscow time (1100 GMT) to 6 p.m. Moscow time (1500 GMT).
Boris Nemtsov, a co-chairman of the unregistered Parnas opposition party, confirmed to the Echo of Moscow radio that the organizers agreed to the changed terms.

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- arnoldvinette@yahoo.comPositive sign that Moscow will allow 30,000 demonstration08:06, 09/12/2011I have no idea of knowing how honest the Russian elections were, however there has been some concern expressed by RIA Novosti writers that the Russian elections were not as fair as they could have been.
In all honesty and fairness Russia is known to be corrupt and RIA Novosti has produced InfoGraphics to that effect.
So in all honesty do the people of Russia expect Russian elections to be 100% corrupt free?
This is an impossible expectation based on the comments above. However it is possible for Russia to move to more and more honest elections as corruption is stopped and eliminated from Russia.
And it is NOT the place for Hilary Clinton US Foreign Affairs Minister to comment on Russian elections.
The United States has its own problems with election corruption.
What I see as a very positive sign is the city of Moscow to allow 30,000 Moscovites to protest against the current Russian election results and possible Russian election fraud.
I am sure that Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin are paying attention.
It is difficult to run a country if the majority of the people believe that you are there fraudulently.
It is in the best interests of Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin and the United Russian Party to listen to the concerns of the Russian people and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are there legally because of the will of the people.
Arnold Vinette
Ottawa, Canada
Again the United States should butt out of Russian political affairs.- artiright12:43, 09/12/2011i would see , what happened if the russians or someone else spoke something about the bush machine vote in florida, stay outside other countries internal, always best
- p2o2rianPositive sign that Mr Vinette was brainwashed14:33, 09/12/2011Mr Vinette is wrong in every passage he wrote, as usual. Let's look at a few.
> What I see as a very positive sign is the city of Moscow to allow 30,000 Moscovites to protest against the current Russian election results and possible Russian election fraud.
The problem is how to reach to the dimwits who are being played against Russia and make them think in Russia's interest categories.
> I am sure that Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin are paying attention.
We know "that Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin are paying attention" to the parties which instigate the "protests".
> It is difficult to run a country if the majority of the people believe that you are there fraudulently.
First, it is not a "majority", Mr Manipulator. They are petty fringes, NWOs' farts to say the truth.
Second - "It is difficult to run a country" - just contrary. Vide Eu and the U.S. of A.
> It is in the best interests of Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin and the United Russian Party to listen to the concerns of the Russian people and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are there legally because of the will of the people.
Another Western crapocracy's platitudes. In every system there are 1000 doubts from 1000 reasons. So the will of the people are shredded into 1000000 pieces. How do you want "to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt" listening to every complaint? That's clinical example how western brains were brainwashed including Mr. Vinettes's (and specially in socialist Canada) and are being brainwashed od daily basis.
And finally so called "fair elections" issue. I will quote an excerpt from the site http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/dubiousquotes/a/stalin_quote.htm
A historical source has been found for one variant of this quote: Boris Bazhanov's Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary, published in 1992 and so far as I know only available in Russian.
The pertinent passage, which appears near the end of Chapter Five, reads as follows (loosely translated):
- "You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
It doesn't mean I ponder latest Russian election fraudulent - but Stalin saw that so called "democracy" is intrinsically wrong if not rotten. It is the worst system from the beginning of humankind ever for election of so called people's "representatives".
It's a pity that Russia tries to copy the worst Western standards.
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